1. MickeyZ's Avatar
    What if you bought a computer that you couldn't install any of your own applications on? (Stupid, I know, but what if?)

    What if that computer required you to sign up for two years Internet service with one particular company, and prohibited using any other ISP? (Not that the ISP subsidized the price or anything - the computer wasn't cheap.)

    What if some bright guys came along and figured out how to install your own applications on the computer? And then showed you how to choose your own ISP? You'd do it, right? I mean, why not, it's your computer. But wait...

    What if the company that made the computer sent down an update that checked to see if you had installed your own applications and deleted them if so?

    What if that same update checked to see if you were using the required ISP, and if you weren't turned the computer into a useless, unfixable, piece of glass and plastic?

    Would you ever buy a computer from that company again?

    Would you ever trust a company like that again?

    Addendum: Some Apple and cell phone customers seem to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, so let me put it another way.

    Let's say you're selling me a cow. You tell me that that cow is being sold for the express purpose of making milk. I agree, and buy the cow.

    Later I decide that I'd prefer to make cheese. You say that's a violation of our agreement and kill my cow.

    When I paid for the cow it became my property, to do with as I please. If you don't like how I'm using it you may choose not to do any further business with me but you don't get to kill my cow, do you?

    And, by the way, warning me you'd kill my cow if I keep making cheese doesn't make it all right, AT ALL!

    The lawyers will point out that contractually I agreed to your terms. True. But I don't think the contract said anything about killing the cow did it?

    Apple's sole redress is to halt all support of my phone. If we let Apple destroy our property for not following the rules we're telling the music industry it's ok to destroy a hard drive containing illegal songs, the cable company to fry our TVs for stealing cable. That is vigilante justice and a direct threat to the rule of law.

    (Taken from LeoVille.com, and I was not sure if anyone else had read it)

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    2007-10-03 05:16 PM
  2. Alperovich's Avatar
    well, what if though when u bought that cow, it DID come with TOS and if that TOS was violated then said action would be taken?

    so what then? your stuck playing a waiting game, until the DEV team figures out a work around. don't get so upset. TOS agreement is a TOS agreement. you got the phone knowing that you'll have sign up for a ATT account for the next 2 years. it sux i know, but that was the agreement, since u violated it, you don't have any rights.

    Like i said, i agree with you, its total BS. it doesn't make it right, its just how it is.
    2007-10-03 05:24 PM
  3. jealous soul's Avatar
    what if you bought a different computer that you could use with any isp?
    2007-10-03 05:24 PM
  4. Eurisko's Avatar
    And, by the way, warning me you'd kill my cow if I keep making cheese doesn't make it all right, AT ALL!

    The lawyers will point out that contractually I agreed to your terms. True. But I don't think the contract said anything about killing the cow did it?

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    I recently got into a scuffle over this and am probably hated in that forum now. I agree with everything you say, the REAL argument here is between "Right & Wrong" and "That's Business".

    We purchased a device from Apple and its ours, and if Apple bricks our device and fails to honor their warranty simply because we did something with it they didn't approve of, that's wrong. Do they have a legal right to do it? Yes, cause that's business.

    You and I, and a very few others seem to uniquely understand the difference between Law and Justice, and there is a BIG difference. Now you will get the impending arguments from AT&T subscribers and those diligent people who does whatever Apple tells them to because "Apple knows what's best" telling you we deserve whatever happens to our phones because we've been told we're doing bad things to it. Bad things according to Apple that is.

    Just my 2 cents.
    2007-10-03 05:34 PM
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