[PokemonDesigner]

It's because people like myself realize that the 4s and below are the same (and more reliable) then the piece of trash 5. And the only reason the 5s sales are going to be high is because of the people who have had a 4 or 4s for 2-4 years that are dying and need to get rid of it.

[Scotty Manley Silberhorn]

It's because people like myself realize that the 4s and below are the same (and more reliable) then the piece of trash 5. And the only reason the 5s sales are going to be high is because of the people who have had a 4 or 4s for 2-4 years that are dying and need to get rid of it.

Please explain how the iphone 5 is trash compared to the 4s and 4? The phone is faster, data comes faster, better camera sensors/camera, smaller connector (which is great), thinner, better sound quality, bigger screen (which doesn't necessarily turn me on), plus the new features coming in ios 7 that will only be supported on the iphone 5. Some features like filters i think should be supported on the 4s but i know airdrop (which is going to be awesome) required special hardware for peer to peer wifi transfers. Plus, you can get the 5 for $99 at best buy. Please tell me why the 4 and 4s are better than the "trash" iphone 5.

[IMG]

"iPhone 5 appears to have settled in at about half of all iPhone sales, nine months after its initial launch," CIRP says. "In contrast, the earlier flagship model, iPhone 4S, accounted for almost three-quarters of iPhone sales almost a year after its launch. Furthermore, iPhone 4S had 90 percent of all iPhone sales in the period immediately after launch , compared to about 70 percent for iPhone 5."


Source: Consumer Intelligence Research Partners

The 4s sold better because people wanted siri. I think it's that simple. Since you can still have siri on the cheaper 4s, that's probably the reason why they are still selling well.

[Silverado1987]

It's because people like myself realize that the 4s and below are the same (and more reliable) then the piece of trash 5. And the only reason the 5s sales are going to be high is because of the people who have had a 4 or 4s for 2-4 years that are dying and need to get rid of it.

Bro your so negative about everything

[iH85CH001]

Bro your so negative about everything

Bro your so positive about everything

[PokemonDesigner]

Please explain how the iphone 5 is trash compared to the 4s and 4? The phone is faster, data comes faster, better camera sensors/camera, smaller connector (which is great), thinner, better sound quality, bigger screen (which doesn't necessarily turn me on), plus the new features coming in ios 7 that will only be supported on the iphone 5. Some features like filters i think should be supported on the 4s but i know airdrop (which is going to be awesome) required special hardware for peer to peer wifi transfers. Plus, you can get the 5 for $99 at best buy. Please tell me why the 4 and 4s are better than the "trash" iphone 5.

Most of what you said I have never seen to be true. I've used a 5 and 4s both on Verizon on 3/4G at the same location and had no faster connection. The phone runs at the same speed (tested with the same app). There is no sound quality difference. It's not really a bigger screen, it's just taller. The smaller connector was just a way to get more money and is plain out stupid in my opinion. Air drop I've never used or had a need to. And live filters is a gimmick for people who can't make their own image edits like myself with programs like Photoshop or GIMP.

[Shashlike]

One thing people often forget is the dock connector. Yes, I know it's old, lightning is faster, you can insert it either way so you save 0.04 seconds per insertion, it's the future bla bla bla. Fact is that some people have a lot docking Stations, sound stations ("old" B&W Zeppelin) and other Peripherals with the "obsolete" Docking connector. Pair this with the iPhone 5 improvements over the 4S and you might not have a good enough reason yet to either change/upgrade all the peripherals at home or run around with 2 cables all the time.

[fleurya]

Makes sense. Anyone who is going to buy the 5 already has. And those looking for a new phone are probably looking for cheaper off-contract options to hold over until the next one comes out in a month or two.

[Scotty Manley Silberhorn]

Most of what you said I have never seen to be true. I've used a 5 and 4s both on Verizon on 3/4G at the same location and had no faster connection. The phone runs at the same speed (tested with the same app). There is no sound quality difference. It's not really a bigger screen, it's just taller. The smaller connector was just a way to get more money and is plain out stupid in my opinion. Air drop I've never used or had a need to. And live filters is a gimmick for people who can't make their own image edits like myself with programs like Photoshop or GIMP.

Go somewhere that has lte and your 5 is going to be way faster, no matter what network your on. There is a sound quality difference. A taller screen is still a bigger screen. The 5 could not be as thin as it is with a 30pin connector and that's obvious. No one but developers have used airdrop. You must have only used a 5 for like 2 seconds if you haven't realized the differences.

[bigboyz]

The 4S is a solid phone that is known. They still are very popular and my company buys them more than the 5 at this time. Not because the 5 is inferior but because there is no real need to have a 5. It is a perk not a necessity. I love my iPhone 5. The screen is taller meaning bigger. It is lighter and thinner as well. Many positives in my book. To each his/her own but don't try to knock the 5..its still selling better than most other phones out there.

[PokemonDesigner]

Go somewhere that has lte and your 5 is going to be way faster, no matter what network your on. There is a sound quality difference. A taller screen is still a bigger screen. The 5 could not be as thin as it is with a 30pin connector and that's obvious. No one but developers have used airdrop. You must have only used a 5 for like 2 seconds if you haven't realized the differences.

You pretty much only argued the same points the same way. And it was in an area with LTE for 30 minutes of side by side testing and timing. Everything was pretty much the same except the occasional spike from both devices. And it could still be the same size with the larger charger port. It only got shorter not thinner. And I am a dev (not registered because of money constraints) and have still never used air drop.

[Scotty Manley Silberhorn]

You pretty much only argued the same points the same way. And it was in an area with LTE for 30 minutes of side by side testing and timing. Everything was pretty much the same except the occasional spike from both devices. And it could still be the same size with the larger charger port. It only got shorter not thinner. And I am a dev (not registered because of money constraints) and have still never used air drop.

If you were in an area with LTE then you wouldn't be getting the same speeds. You do know that the 4s isn't LTE compatible right? And the lightning cable is a lot thinner compared to the 30 pin. I can almost stick my lighting plug inside of the 30pin. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about or you are trolling. Air drop has only been available for little more than a month, on beta's with the most current devices only. Chances are you aren't going to have too many people walking around with the new devices running beta software. When it becomes mainstream, it'll be very useful.

I looked up the specs for the 30 pin and the lightning. The lightning is almost 40% thinner compared to the 30 pin.

[PokemonDesigner]

If you were in an area with LTE then you wouldn't be getting the same speeds. You do know that the 4s isn't LTE compatible right? And the lightning cable is a lot thinner compared to the 30 pin. I can almost stick my lighting plug inside of the 30pin. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about or you are trolling. Air drop has only been available for little more than a month, on beta's with the most current devices only. Chances are you aren't going to have too many people walking around with the new devices running beta software. When it becomes mainstream, it'll be very useful.

I looked up the specs for the 30 pin and the lightning. The lightning is almost 40% thinner compared to the 30 pin.

I do understand the 4s isn't capable of LTE. I gave the 5 the advantage on that due to the fact I wanted both devices to run as fast as possible so I cleared both app switchers and rebooted before hand. And I've had a 4, 4s, and 5 on iOS 7 Beta 1. My 4s is on Beta 3 and I believe my friend is still on Beta 1 with their 5. And I've never actually seen the lightning charger in person so I was going off of what I heard from my friend with the 5.

[Albut]

As much as that!

[Scotty Manley Silberhorn]

I do understand the 4s isn't capable of LTE. I gave the 5 the advantage on that due to the fact I wanted both devices to run as fast as possible so I cleared both app switchers and rebooted before hand. And I've had a 4, 4s, and 5 on iOS 7 Beta 1. My 4s is on Beta 3 and I believe my friend is still on Beta 1 with their 5. And I've never actually seen the lightning charger in person so I was going off of what I heard from my friend with the 5.

So you're going off of your friend's word that is wrong for the charger and you're running tests on beta software's (which 99.9% of ios users aren't using) that still have major bugs in it. Sounds like you don't really have any solid facts to go on.