• T-Mobile Casts Wider Net to Reach More iPhone Customers

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    Michael Essany
    Published on 2012-11-08 12:59 AM
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    T-Mobile may not officially carry the iPhone, but with unlocked devices populating the U.S. at ever-increasing proportions, it doesn't take much investigative work to read between the lines of T-Mobile latest advancements with regard to its 4G HSPA+ data networks.

    In fact, the carrier is even referencing the iPhone by name in its announcement.

    "Today I’m pleased to announce that Baltimore, Houston and Washington D.C. are the latest metro areas where T-Mobile customers can benefit from enhanced voice and data coverage, and faster speeds on unlocked devices, including the iPhone," says Neville Ray, Chief Technology Officer for T-Mobile USA.

    "Our internal tests of unlocked iPhone 4S devices running over 4G (HSPA+) on our 1900 network recorded on average 70% faster download speeds than iPhone 4S devices on AT&’s network," Ray boasted in a clear effort to attract iPhone owners.

    So even without being in the iPhone family, the carrier's $4 billion plan to transform its network to cutting-edge new standards is a clear indication that the iPhone remains important nonetheless to T-Mobile.

    Source: T-Mobile
    This article was originally published in forum thread: T-Mobile Casts Wider Net to Reach More iPhone Customers started by Michael Essany View original post
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    Comments 25 Comments
    1. n00neimp0rtant's Avatar
      n00neimp0rtant - 2012-11-08, 01:39 AM
      Seriously can't wait. This is going to be so nice.
    1. bisayakid07's Avatar
      bisayakid07 - 2012-11-08, 01:39 AM
      Very disperate move from TMo. Of course that network is fast right now because it's a clean network. Only testing phone are on it. By the time subscribers are on it, I hope they have the budget to expand.
    1. Bo's Avatar
      Bo - 2012-11-08, 01:45 AM
      Here in the Phoenix, Arizona area T-mo has flipped the switch on too, so lovin' not having to deal with Edge anymore.
    1. Southern128's Avatar
      Southern128 - 2012-11-08, 02:11 AM
      Can't wait to have it in my area, I'm in Louisiana but when I go to Houston, only 2hrs away, I pick up a 3G signal...smh
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 - 2012-11-08, 02:13 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by bisayakid07 View Post
      Very disperate move from TMo. Of course that network is fast right now because it's a clean network. Only testing phone are on it. By the time subscribers are on it, I hope they have the budget to expand.
      How is expanding your network so more of your costumers can use HSPA+ a desperate move? That's like saying Apple expanding it's market outside the US a desperate move.
    1. Nyyankees's Avatar
      Nyyankees - 2012-11-08, 02:33 AM
      Attachment 615316 first test is wifi the rest are 3g here in nyc
    1. bisayakid07's Avatar
      bisayakid07 - 2012-11-08, 02:54 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      How is expanding your network so more of your costumers can use HSPA+ a desperate move? That's like saying Apple expanding it's market outside the US a desperate move.
      My point is TMo is so desperate to compare their network speed to At&t. TMo HSPA+ has only a few subs compared to At&t with thousands of users.
    1. steve-z17's Avatar
      steve-z17 - 2012-11-08, 03:12 AM
      I think it's awesome that T-Mobile is doing this. Definitely something nice for those using unlocked phones that don't want to pay the AT&T/Verizon prices.
    1. zeroskater61's Avatar
      zeroskater61 - 2012-11-08, 03:14 AM
      Correct me if am wrong cause i really dont know but.. Is the 4s even 4G compatible?
      I thought the iPhone 5 was the first mobile device built by apple to support 4G networks?
    1. Nyyankees's Avatar
      Nyyankees - 2012-11-08, 03:22 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by zeroskater61 View Post
      Correct me if am wrong cause i really dont know but.. Is the 4s even 4G compatible?
      I thought the iPhone 5 was the first mobile device built by apple to support 4G networks?
      not sure i have tmobile and when i had a 4s a few weeks ago it would roam into att and say 4g as well but it wouldnt let me do anything
    1. jwil736's Avatar
      jwil736 - 2012-11-08, 03:35 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by zeroskater61 View Post
      Correct me if am wrong cause i really dont know but.. Is the 4s even 4G compatible?
      I thought the iPhone 5 was the first mobile device built by apple to support 4G networks?
      The HSPA+ was deemed 4G speeds although it really isn't. It runs on GSM networks only and ATT pushed apple to make a 4G icon for them because the are the only US company that officially supported the iPhone with HSPA.

      LTE is still not true "4G" speeds but is marketed as such. The iPhone 5 is the first iPhone to support LTE.
    1. Tony9592's Avatar
      Tony9592 - 2012-11-08, 03:59 AM
      Can't wait for 3G in the Chicago suburbs area!
    1. captainmccool's Avatar
      captainmccool - 2012-11-08, 04:04 AM
      I've been getting pretty frequent 3g here in Chicago the last week or so after seeing no signs of it over the last several months. Haven't had any blazing fast speeds (max was 5 megs, I think) but compared to Edge it's one hell of a treat. On the $5.99 t-zones plan? Unbeatable.
    1. ohthatguyagain's Avatar
      ohthatguyagain - 2012-11-08, 07:05 AM
      Had an original iPhone on Tmo. When I made the jump to the iPhone 4, I decided to ditch Tmo and go back to AT&T. Wow was that a mistake. Had to though - here in Houston, Tmo has only offered edge ntwk in iPhone spectrums until recently.

      I think Tmo - with all the craptons of cash they've had thrown at them and with the acquisition of metroPCS (most advanced LTE ntwk in America), Tmo is about one year away from being the best ntwk.
    1. fanboyfanboy's Avatar
      fanboyfanboy - 2012-11-08, 02:31 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by jwil736 View Post
      The HSPA+ was deemed 4G speeds although it really isn't. It runs on GSM networks only and ATT pushed apple to make a 4G icon for them because the are the only US company that officially supported the iPhone with HSPA.

      LTE is still not true "4G" speeds but is marketed as such. The iPhone 5 is the first iPhone to support LTE.
      I think you meant "HSPA+ is still not true 4G speeds but is marketed as such". LTE is true 4G speeds and the only iPhone with LTE connectivity is the iPhone 5.
    1. dannyrocket's Avatar
      dannyrocket - 2012-11-08, 02:58 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by Tony9592 View Post
      Can't wait for 3G in the Chicago suburbs area!
      I just switched to the tmobile pre paid.
      50$ unlimited everything (yes edge sucks). I also live in the Chicago area and last week traveling by ohare airport, my edge signal went to 3G. I should have tested it out but didn't think about it. Turns out a couple of other people noticed the same thing in different parts of the city when I was asking around.

      Maybe not so far off for use Chicago area users.
    1. jwil736's Avatar
      jwil736 - 2012-11-08, 03:04 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by fanboyfanboy View Post
      I think you meant "HSPA+ is still not true 4G speeds but is marketed as such". LTE is true 4G speeds and the only iPhone with LTE connectivity is the iPhone 5.
      No even LTE is not true 4G. The definition of 4G was dumbed down 3 years ago. 100Mb/s is 4G.
    1. iPhonePilot's Avatar
      iPhonePilot - 2012-11-08, 03:36 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by jwil736 View Post
      The HSPA+ was deemed 4G speeds although it really isn't. It runs on GSM networks only and ATT pushed apple to make a 4G icon for them because the are the only US company that officially supported the iPhone with HSPA.

      LTE is still not true "4G" speeds but is marketed as such. The iPhone 5 is the first iPhone to support LTE.
      "HSPA+ runs on GSM network?????" Clearly you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about... and people reading this should totally ignore your comments...

      I'm not even going to begin on how wrong you are and justify educating you...

      But for all others- HSPA+ runs in a COMPLETELY different network (WCDMA in Tmos case to be exact) and the speeds are MUCH MUCH more that ALL other networks INCLUDING most LTE networks in the nation... (Don't believe me? - look at NON-BIAS organizations like Consumer Reports, and industry experts like Cnet, PCWorld, etc, etc...)
      The other side to this and where everybody else BUT Tmo is the back haul network that Tmo has that NO other, and I mean NO other, network can compare... When Tmo LTE network comes out it WILL be more than 3x faster than the top network today-Verizon!!! so look for it in a city near you by mid 2013...

      And that my friend is how the cookie crumbles...!!!
    1. NewD's Avatar
      NewD - 2012-11-08, 04:29 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by iPhonePilot View Post
      "HSPA+ runs on GSM network?????" Clearly you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about... and people reading this should totally ignore your comments...

      I'm not even going to begin on how wrong you are and justify educating you...

      But for all others- HSPA+ runs in a COMPLETELY different network (WCDMA in Tmos case to be exact) and the speeds are MUCH MUCH more that ALL other networks INCLUDING most LTE networks in the nation... (Don't believe me? - look at NON-BIAS organizations like Consumer Reports, and industry experts like Cnet, PCWorld, etc, etc...)
      The other side to this and where everybody else BUT Tmo is the back haul network that Tmo has that NO other, and I mean NO other, network can compare... When Tmo LTE network comes out it WILL be more than 3x faster than the top network today-Verizon!!! so look for it in a city near you by mid 2013...

      And that my friend is how the cookie crumbles...!!!
      Not so fast. You're running rough and shoddy with your facts there. Riddle me this. Why does AT&T on their tech pages refer to their current (non LTE) 4G as being HSPA+? AT&T uses a GSM carrier type. It's right there in black & white, dude!
    1. bigdog5142's Avatar
      bigdog5142 - 2012-11-08, 08:10 PM
      Man...I went into a T-Mobile store this AM to help my mom sort something out...the rep saw I had an iPhone and he was on me like a bee to honey! Wanting me to switch over...told him I was locked to AT&T and that I had the iPhone 5 with LTE...that stopped him in his tracks.
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