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  1. DoerrFan's Avatar
    Hey All.
    I've seen many a thread about ZiPhone, and i figured its time to weed it out. I have used it, and its a dangerous method, let me elaborate.

    ZiPhones 1-Pass method stuffs everything into the ramdisk, this can lead to memory corruption, like grayed out Wi-Fi or bluetooth.

    ZiPhone automatically downgrades your bootloader to 3.9, which thankfully now can be updated again using Bootneuter. The reason this is bad is that if your iPhone is 1.1.2 or higher, your warranty used to be gone permanently, thanks to the Dev team though Bootneuter is an amazing (but again, dangerous if not used properly) tool.

    Instead use iLiberty+ or Pwnage. iLiberty+ uses a 2-Pass Method which doesn't load everything onto the ramdisk, in fact it does very little, it uses payloads in the working OS, so no memory corruption can occur.

    Therefore, iLiberty+ and Pwnage are much safer, and not to mention ZiPhones code was stolen from the Dev Team, who didn't release it for the reasons above. He has now been kicked out obviously. The Wi-Fi Fix actually replaces the phones MAC address with Zibri's. So make sure not to put two Wi-Fi fixed phones on the same network!

    In short. ZiPhone = Bad iLiberty+/Pwnages = Good.
    If anyone has anything to ad, please let me know.

    If your iPhone has the grayed Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Issue, here is the Dev Team's fix. If your bootloader is downgraded and your iPhone is OTB 1.1.2 use Bootneuter to upgrade.
    Just remember, research anything you want to do to your phone before you do it, make sure its safe and this applies to everything you do.
    I even question Zibri's ability to code, he doesn't fix the software he calls his problems, this shows a level of arrogance that is unprecedented. So please don't use it.
    Thanks to dale1v for alerting me about ZiPhones evils
    Last edited by DoerrFan; 2008-05-28 at 07:59 PM.
    2008-05-25 12:14 AM
  2. IvanB's Avatar
    Good post.
    iPhone FW 2.2.1, Jailbroken and Unlocked!
    2008-05-25 12:27 AM
  3. smirkis's Avatar
    i've been trying to pass on the word daily. others seem to disagree with me hating ziphone, glad to find a few that agree lol
    1.1.1>1.1.2>1.1.4>2.0>2.1>2.2>3.1>3.1.2 blackra1n'd

    waitin on my white iphone 4
    2008-05-25 12:58 AM
  4. DoerrFan's Avatar
    i've been trying to pass on the word daily. others seem to disagree with me hating ziphone, glad to find a few that agree lol
    Thanks, i just think its helpful to have a thread just detailing why.
    2008-05-25 02:14 AM
  5. ajl917's Avatar
    I think iLiberty would be much more popular if it was as simple as ZiPhone. ZiPhone consists of 1 button to do everything. I used ZiPhone for 1.1.4, the first version made available, and I occasionally dont have any AT&T service when I turn on my phone, but a reboot or 2 does the trick...
    2008-05-25 02:51 AM
  6. DoerrFan's Avatar
    I think iLiberty would be much more popular if it was as simple as ZiPhone. ZiPhone consists of 1 button to do everything. I used ZiPhone for 1.1.4, the first version made available, and I occasionally dont have any AT&T service when I turn on my phone, but a reboot or 2 does the trick...
    iLiberty is really simple, i remember jailbreaking having to use command line so anything is simple now
    2008-05-25 04:18 AM
  7. jiggajuggawugga's Avatar
    ^^ amen. i remember researching, watching endless youtube videos word for word. having to pause and rewind a couple seconds and put my face like 2 inches from the screen to see exactly what the guy was doing to jailbreak his iPhone.
    Dang. i can't believe how far this has come
    BUT. back to the post. i used Ziphone to unlock, jailbreak, activate my phone and have seen no side effects? my WiFi is fine and i get service like everywhere. i haven't tried the unlock with a different simcard other than ATT because i don't have one, but i'm sure it would work

    whats the difference in bootloaders? and why is downgrading is so bad?
    2008-05-25 04:25 AM
  8. dooley19's Avatar
    I use Ziphone and I had no issues with my phone either. Everything works find and yea what is so wrong about downgrading bootloaders?
    2008-05-25 04:44 AM
  9. bomiz96's Avatar
    Well With iLiberty You can use a fake boot loader witch is better
    2008-05-25 04:58 AM
  10. dooley19's Avatar
    Well With iLiberty You can use a fake boot loader witch is better
    So your phone will work better than mine since I downgraded the bootloader and you didn't?
    2008-05-25 05:03 AM
  11. bomiz96's Avatar
    Im on at&t. so im not sure. But i;ve heard iliberty fake bootloader is safer, better. and you can take it out.
    2008-05-25 05:41 AM
  12. dale1v's Avatar
    Doerrfan, very good post.


    Also:
    When you say that you can't see any problems, you need to keep an open mind and remind yourself of how little of the phone you can actually see. Stuff is working in your phone at a much deeper level than what is visible to an end user, right down to the foundations. When ZiPhone crashes through these foundations during jailbreak, the whole phone becomes unstable. You could go weeks, months even and nothing happens and you think it's all good. You just won't be able to see the damage until something does happen and your phone starts to collapse.
    Last edited by dale1v; 2008-05-25 at 06:00 AM.
    2008-05-25 05:56 AM
  13. DoerrFan's Avatar
    If your iPhone is stock 1.1.2 or higher, your bootloader is downgraded and your warranty voided. But now you can update your phone back to 4.6 thanks to bootneuter.

    And while you might not have any problems now and think its great, remember we all thought anySIM 1.0.2 was fine.
    2008-05-25 06:16 AM
  14. iphonejeff's Avatar
    moved to the right forum..

    party on!..

    2008-05-25 06:21 AM
  15. AotW's Avatar
    As I always say, ZiPhone was good when there were no alternatives...
    If I could help you with my answer give me a
    2008-05-25 07:29 AM
  16. Slimz's Avatar
    I thought ZiPhone only downgraded your bootloader during a full unlock/activation?

    Or is that what we are specifically referring to?
    2008-05-25 07:51 AM
  17. ~~Tito~~'s Avatar
    We should spread the word to the hofo section for the iphone. I used ziPhone and exactly what you said, I saw no effects untill it crashed and then **** happened. I restored and used iLiberty or iDemocracy(which does everything ziPhone does but better) or winpwn. I remember the 70+ step jailbreaks or unlocks. Those where the days. . . . .
    2008-05-25 08:05 AM
  18. DarkMirc's Avatar
    Ziphone originally a good idea was rushed out so he could say im the best.

    He`s Italian how can he be the best lol

    well i have tested every jailbreak out there and the best is iliberty!

    Everything works properly although, an idiot button is required for noobs with an auto jailbreak,unlock ect. This option would take away the thinking process for idiots.

    The best way to jailbreak is Iliberty then after install cydia packager to fix bsd and the space problem after this there is not much else you need to do.

    Apps that dont work are not due to the jailbreak (most idiot think it is)

    Apps that don`t work are either not made for the firmware or bably made.

    Most apps work!

    STUFF ZIBRI AND his Jailbreak originally it downgraded my bootloader but thanks to bootneuter it fixed it.
    Modmyifone IRC Channel:- irc.moofspeak.net #modmyi
    2008-05-25 08:32 AM
  19. Dash-2's Avatar
    Used Ziphone the first time on 1.1.4 just to jailbreak, never had a problem.
    Decided to restore and jailbreak again today for fun, I used iLiberty+ and didn't have a problem either.
    What I don't like is that the programmer of iLiberty+ bascially says Installer sucks and you should use Cydia.

    To bad Cydia never took off and Installer has continued to improve..
    2008-05-25 08:37 AM
  20. dale1v's Avatar
    Ziphone originally a good idea was rushed out so he could say im the best.

    He`s Italian how can he be the best lol



    lol
    2008-05-25 08:40 AM
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