1. The_Durben's Avatar
    Here my 2 cents worth of comment
    Xcode: had a try at it using a OpenSource project I got from the developer, but had to kick it all into the bin as I was just after some dylibs. Xcode does NOT use dylibs any more it is all build into one package, one package only and no more separate files. Grrrrrrr!

    It seems paradox to me that people are willing to pay money for an app/tweak in order to avoid getting a free API key. To be honest I rather enter an API key once and get straight weather data, rather than spending money and having to tapping here and there to get an update. The ratio of means to achieve is wrong. It is like you want to kill that annoying fly, you can use a fly squat, throw napalm at it or use the thermonuclear terminator. They all work and the end result is the same, the fly is dead! Two of the methods have a wrong means of achievement, guess which one they are.
    I agree a paid tweak is not ideal.
    However getting that info directly from each of our phones is.
    I'm not against any means of getting widgets to just work this is just more throwing out ideas
    2013-05-24 10:30 PM
  2. ELLSBLACK6's Avatar
    Thats a SERIOUSLY COOL concept, Simon. Nice idea! Can't wait to get it!
    Can you please tell me how you got your dock icons to have that mirror reflection... Can't figure it out?
    2013-05-24 10:33 PM
  3. rasputin007's Avatar
    I just don't like the idea to be depended on a paid close source tweak, what if apple changes the way it calls weather and location services in the next iOS update. We have the same situation we had when iOS 5.0.1 changed to iOS 5.1 and suddenly MyLocation app was not working any more.
    I really think this is a bad path to walk on.
    Nothing is impossible only miracles take a bit longer!
    2013-05-24 10:43 PM
  4. Simon's Avatar
    Does it matter the size of the gif file. Simon made on that is 28mb and the original is 1.58mb. Plus the less frames a minute means the gif file is faster.
    Ideally you would want it to be smaller without sacrificing quality. The 28mb one I posted was it's original state, the 4mb one after I sped it up and played with it a little, that one is the one you would want to use, especially if on a 4 or 4S. My problem is I only use an i5 so never know when something is too big since the i5 can handle so much more lol.
    2013-05-24 10:45 PM
  5. VOLTAGExDT's Avatar
    if you don't have nothing nice to say simon don't say nothing at all.. damn ip5 and your ip5 comments HA
    2013-05-24 10:49 PM
  6. Simon's Avatar
    Can you please tell me how you got your dock icons to have that mirror reflection... Can't figure it out?
    I'm not too sure where it is originally from. I got it from elite thread I believe. I don't think it is from a paid theme, if it is someone let me know and I'll take it down.

    Reflective dock: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ive%20Dock.zip

    if you don't have nothing nice to say simon don't say nothing at all.. damn ip5 and your ip5 comments HA
    Lol, sorry
    I do have a i4 my kid uses for games, it has no wifi or anything on it though so makes testing on it a little troublesome. Most of the i4 testing I do on my macbook so I never really know if it will slow down a 4 or not.
    2013-05-24 10:49 PM
  7. rasputin007's Avatar
    As an alternative I also could say if you want to install a tweak to get the native weather app started/updated, then you could install the iPhone web server, add a php script call in the body tag of the LockBackground.html. This php script starts a shell script which in turn calls the Weather App executable. Then every time you lock the home screen the Weather App gets called and updated. All free and OpenSource.
    Nothing is impossible only miracles take a bit longer!
    2013-05-24 10:53 PM
  8. siemprelisto's Avatar
    Can you please tell me how you got your dock icons to have that mirror reflection... Can't figure it out?
    With reflective docks theme
    @ ELLSBLACK6

    You must have missed the answer to your questions couple pages back.

    Try RefectiveDock from Cydia...
    2013-05-24 10:54 PM
  9. Steph53940's Avatar
    goodnight
    2013-05-24 11:01 PM
  10. KraXik's Avatar


    Works like an absolute charm. Thank you very much Simon!

    (On i5 so no problems with the gif)
    2013-05-24 11:12 PM
  11. MamaJaay's Avatar
    As an alternative I also could say if you want to install a tweak to get the native weather app started/updated, then you could install the iPhone web server, add a php script call in the body tag of the LockBackground.html. This php script starts a shell script which in turn calls the Weather App executable. Then every time you lock the home screen the Weather App gets called and updated. All free and OpenSource.
    Now THAT may be the best option I've heard yet. Can force the app update without actually opening the app??
    2013-05-24 11:15 PM
  12. KraXik's Avatar
    Now THAT may be the best option I've heard yet. Can force the app update without actually opening the app??
    I think you need to open safari.
    2013-05-24 11:20 PM
  13. The_Durben's Avatar
    As an alternative I also could say if you want to install a tweak to get the native weather app started/updated, then you could install the iPhone web server, add a php script call in the body tag of the LockBackground.html. This php script starts a shell script which in turn calls the Weather App executable. Then every time you lock the home screen the Weather App gets called and updated. All free and OpenSource.
    What would I write in the html ras?

    Interested to see if it will then update the libweather as well which would then not require a respring to see the updated info from the weather app.
    2013-05-24 11:59 PM
  14. xxupsxx's Avatar
    donīt know if it is interesting. My Android Custom Rom use Weatherbug as alternativ to yahoo for weather and forecast in the pulldown
    2013-05-25 12:00 AM
  15. NewD's Avatar

    Technically if he does it how it used to be this wont be an issue for refresh as it would update the actual libweather plist which we can grab from.

    Only issue may be having to open weather app or NC to set a new location.
    This doesn't bother me as I don't keep MyLocation app running anyway. I open it to set a new location if/when needed so its virtually the same for me.
    Not to be a typical "gloomy Grant" here but this is a total deal killer for me. Unless we can overcome the automatic update of location using native weather this is a total deal stopper for me. I'm quite sure I'm not alone. We spent the better part of two months with Ian and Dacal up night after night trying to figure out why people's cities were not updating automatically as they were driving. Can you imagine the bedlam that will ensue if we move to a format for all of our weather widgets that, by design, cannot update city.?!?. C'mon guys.. Get real.. No way we're giving up "auto location find".. GPS, by definition...,
    2013-05-25 12:04 AM
  16. rasputin007's Avatar
    Now THAT may be the best option I've heard yet. Can force the app update without actually opening the app??
    As nice as this sounds, it is not quite that simple. The biggest problem is a Cydia package called "open", which does not work under iOS6, crashes and leaves you in Safe Mode. The dev, Carsten Kramer, has not updated the tweak.
    The rest, php and shell script are easy.
    But then on the other hand if you have the iPhone web server running, you can get any info from any weather site, no response file needed.
    It works like this
    You lock the home screen, this launches the LockBackground.html, in the body tag is a call for a php file on the iPhone web server, this php script runs the geolocation javascript and saves the latitude and longitude in txt files, then it starts a shell script. This shell script reads the latitude and longitude txt files and assigns them to variables. Those variables are used by lynx (command line browser) to fetch a web site and save it locally. This web site has for example the hourly forecast for your GPS position for the next 36 hours (weather condition with icon, temp, rain fall, wind direction and wind speed) in an html table. Once the web site html file is saved the shell script calls sed (a brilliant command line editor), which will strip the web site html file of all code apart the html table and add new elements, e.g link to custom css file, new html, head and body tags etc. So basically you end up with a nice looking html table in a new html file. The LockBackground.html file can call this new table html file and you have a custom designed 36 hour forecast table on the lock screen that gets updated each time you lock the home screen.
    This actually works, I used it last year, mentioned it in the GPS weather thread, a theme called "Hour by Hour".
    Last edited by rasputin007; 2013-05-25 at 12:29 AM.
    Nothing is impossible only miracles take a bit longer!
    2013-05-25 12:04 AM
  17. NewD's Avatar
    I just don't like the idea to be depended on a paid close source tweak, what if apple changes the way it calls weather and location services in the next iOS update. We have the same situation we had when iOS 5.0.1 changed to iOS 5.1 and suddenly MyLocation app was not working any more.
    I really think this is a bad path to walk on.
    Darn right. The answer is a more dependable weather feed - outside the realm of iOS itself. The more I think about it - "ease" "now" of getting the info (via a refreshable libweather) is not taking the long view.

    But Ras, requiring everyone to get an API, free or not, isn't the long view either, bro.

    As an alternative I also could say if you want to install a tweak to get the native weather app started/updated, then you could install the iPhone web server, add a php script call in the body tag of the LockBackground.html. This php script starts a shell script which in turn calls the Weather App executable. Then every time you lock the home screen the Weather App gets called and updated. All free and OpenSource.
    NOW you're talking. Intriguing. Can it be auto-refreshed?
    2013-05-25 12:08 AM
  18. The_Durben's Avatar
    Not to be a typical "gloomy Grant" here but this is a total deal killer for me. Unless we can overcome the automatic update of location using native weather this is a total deal stopper for me. I'm quite sure I'm not alone. We spent the better part of two months with Ian and Dacal up night after night trying to figure out why people's cities were not updating automatically as they were driving. Can you imagine the bedlam that will ensue if we move to a format for all of our weather widgets that, by design, cannot update city.?!?. C'mon guys.. Get real.. No way we're giving up "auto location find".. GPS, by definition...,
    Not what I meant Grant
    Just saying with a tie in to location service you'd have to let the weather app do this

    You rely far too much on the changing of cities automatically
    All apple needs do is change the way location services run on phone in an update and the MyLocation app is useless too. So far we have been lucky through multiple firmware updates they haven't.
    And I'm not saying this is how it should be now anyway.
    This was for if there's a tweak that can be made to do this (which can be done as forecast does) there is no need for any geo location scripts or MyLocation app as your phone does this already.

    Plus you make it seem as if opening an app or pulling down NC centre for a change in city takes hours when it's pretty simple. I understand that while driving through different cities you need an instant update of the conditions. Your car windows must be pretty tinted..... lol


    Sidenote I can tell you a large majority of users of GPS through MyLocation don't have the app running constantly. Look at the screenshots and see how many actually have the indicator in their statbar. This means for a new city they also open the app and turn on/off.
    Last edited by The_Durben; 2013-05-25 at 12:25 AM.
    2013-05-25 12:19 AM
  19. signori's Avatar
    Ideally you would want it to be smaller without sacrificing quality. The 28mb one I posted was it's original state, the 4mb one after I sped it up and played with it a little, that one is the one you would want to use, especially if on a 4 or 4S. My problem is I only use an i5 so never know when something is too big since the i5 can handle so much more lol.
    Thanks Simon. I am using an iPhone 5 so I don't care how big it is. I want the best quality. But between the ones you made and Voltagexdt and the original rainpaine there is about 8 of them now lol. Which is awesome. My problem is trying to decide which one to use. Well thats not really a problem. So I have test which one looks the best. Can you share your opinion on which one you think is the best quality. Thanks very much.
    2013-05-25 12:26 AM
  20. NewD's Avatar
    Not what I meant Grant
    Just saying with a tie in to location service you'd have to let the weather app do this

    You rely far too much on the changing of cities automatically
    All apple needs do is change the way location services run on phone in an update and the MyLocation app is useless too. So far we have been lucky through multiple firmware updates they haven't.
    And I'm not saying this is how it should be now anyway.
    This was for if there's a tweak that can be made to do this (which can be done as forecast does) there is no need for any geo location scripts or MyLocation app as your phone does this already.

    Plus you make it seem as if opening an app or pulling down NC centre for a change in city takes hours when it's pretty simple. I understand that while driving through different cities you need an instant update of the conditions. Your car windows must be pretty tinted..... lol
    You know the level of my respect for you, D, is off the charts. But I believe you'd be on the 'wrong side of history' to use your influence to move in a direction that 'required' people to enter NC or Unlock to get the city change. .. Sorry, bro. Gonna stand firm on it. CHOOSING to pull down NC is 'one thing'. HAVING to -- is quite another.. Wouldn't you agree on that point?

    Sidenote I can tell you a large majority of users of GPS through MyLocation don't have the app running constantly. Look at the screenshots and see how many actually have the indicator in their statbar. This means for a new city they also open the app and turn on/off.
    Yea.. Interesting. I did notice that in people's screenies too starting a while back.. Good eye! .. But still - we HAVE to find a city auto-refresh option. We just HAVE to. Please, D.. Please, King.. Please Marty.. Please Dacal and Ian.. PLEEEAAAASE...
    Last edited by NewD; 2013-05-25 at 12:39 AM.
    2013-05-25 12:34 AM
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