1. jdonn2009's Avatar
    Same here. All of my friends and I who have the iPhone 4 have hardly had any issues. Only one person can duplicate the "holding" issue and even then, it doesn't do it regularly when he's talking on it.

    This whole thing has just been completely blown out of proportion, IMO.
    agreed
    2010-07-14 06:27 PM
  2. vampr's Avatar
    As much as I was looking forward to the fourth gen iPhone, I have held off so far due to not only the design issues, but also the way Apple makes the devices such a PITA to integrate with anything else.
    My wife has a crappy LG slider phone that I can send and receive files via Bluetooth to and from my desktops with, but the stupid iPhone that is made by the same company as my iMac can't seem to get that simple task done.
    I really like my 3Gs, but I'm starting to wonder if it is actually the best solution for me or if I'm just used to it. If they don't get this figured out soon, I may have to really investigate some Droids and see what they are really about...from what I've seen so far they have some pretty impressive stats to offer...including root access....freakin' Apple


    I'm your Huckleberry!
    2010-07-14 06:28 PM
  3. skater38053's Avatar
    Ok. So how would apple go about fixing the problem? Completely redesign the iPhone again??

    My friend also says when I answer the phone they hear a clicking sound... Anyone else have that problem?? Could just be I live in the middle of nowhere hahaha
    Last edited by skater38053; 2010-07-14 at 06:31 PM.
    2010-07-14 06:28 PM
  4. MikePA's Avatar
    On Wednesday, RBC Capital Markets Analyst Mike Abramsky estimated that every additional week that Apple fails to offer a Death Grip fix possibly tacks on another $200 million to the price tag of an eventual solution or product recall in the future.
    While this guy said 'possibly tacks on' that is most likely a qualification because he couldn't know the exact amount.

    While it's obvious to state it, the 'Death Grip' solution is either;

    1. Software
    2. Hardware
    3. Both

    If it's Software, there's no additional cost to Apple, they'd be sending out updates periodically any way, it'd simply be another requirement on the list of things to be fixed.

    If the solution involves Hardware, alone or in combination with Software, IMO, Apple is not going do a mass fix for a simple reason. It doesn't affect all iPhones so why recall all of them?

    IMO, Apple will;

    1. Issue 4.01 which will fix some of the Death Grip phones.
    2. Issue instructions to the store on how to handle complaints from people who are still affected which will involve;

    A. Free bumper
    B. If it doesn't solve the problem or the person doesn't want a bumper, offer an exchange.

    I'd love to know what sales figures this expert is using to arrive at $200 million per week.
    2010-07-14 06:29 PM
  5. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
    i still don't understand this, what is the percentage of "bad" phones? my iphone 4 has been working perfectly since day 1, maybe i'm in a really good coverage area? i've never had a dropped call and i use my phone inside and out... strange

    You answered your own question. The "death grip" is because of the uncommonly large attenuation the phone gets from holding it. If you live in an area with moderate coverage, it may be enough to drop your signal.

    However if you live somewhere with excellent coverage, you'll never notice it.

    So indirectly, you can also blame AT&T for this :P
    2010-07-14 06:29 PM
  6. jdonn2009's Avatar
    You answered your own question. The "death grip" is because of the uncommonly large attenuation the phone gets from holding it. If you live in an area with moderate coverage, it may be enough to drop your signal.

    However if you live somewhere with excellent coverage, you'll never notice it.

    So indirectly, you can also blame AT&T for this :P



    yea thats what i figured, thank you columbus at&t antenna's!
    2010-07-14 06:32 PM
  7. mboojigga's Avatar
    The only issue I have had with my I4 is the oversensitive screen when the phone is to my ear. I have had the phone since launch and the only time I have had dropped calls is when I am driving my car connected to Uconnect. I am left handed and have had no issues with dropped calls or bars dropping. I never paid attention to the bars until this was brought up.
    2010-07-14 06:34 PM
  8. XChrisX's Avatar
    Just further proof that this reception issue is really a non issue. I read where one firm was going to poll a large amount of people to determine if this issue is widespread or really only a small handful. No one is forced to buy this phone, and if so many people are affected with bad phones, where are the high return rates to prove it? We return everything else if it's broken, why not the iPhone? This whole debacle is just silly if you ask me.
    2010-07-14 06:58 PM
  9. SoCal Railroader's Avatar
    So where is Cuperino?


    I have no idea where "Curperino" is, but CUPERTINO is in the Bay Area of California Apple's HQ is exactly 165 miles south of my humble home here in Redwood Valley in Mendocino County, NorCal, so I could be to Stevie Boy's office in about 3 hours
    Last edited by SoCal Railroader; 2010-07-14 at 07:06 PM.
    2010-07-14 07:01 PM
  10. ModRacer's Avatar
    Burn foo
    2010-07-14 07:07 PM
  11. santacruzlocal's Avatar
    The iPhone is like a drug. I dont know about you but I am addicted!!
    Psst ... Do you have any iPhone I could buy from you? ... Are you a cop? You have to say your a cop if you are.
    2010-07-14 07:07 PM
  12. whereswaldo's Avatar
    Sales are still going up because people can put tape on the SIM tray or get a case
    Name? whereswaldo
    iDevice + Firmware? 32GB Black iPhone 4 iOS 5.0
    Computer + OS? Dell Inspiron 15R 2nd Gen i5, 2.3 Ghz, 750GB HDD, 8GB RAM Windows 7 HP
    Location? Toronto
    Found yet? No
    2010-07-14 07:07 PM
  13. Jahooba's Avatar
    I guess it's either 'stand up for your principals' or 'just buy a darn $30 bumper and enjoy the latest and greatest fashion accessory.'

    I think a lot of people are willing to bite that $30 bullet.

    Let's be honest, Apple has people by the balls with this. They don't have to do anything -- they can just keep selling their phones to the Apple die-hards and still make a profit year after year.
    2010-07-14 07:07 PM
  14. SoCal Railroader's Avatar
    Burn foo
    You want Steve Jobs to burn I take it?
    2010-07-14 07:20 PM
  15. adp's Avatar
    You want Steve Jobs to burn I take it?
    No, I think he's referring to his 1st gen phone listed in his description
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    2010-07-14 07:26 PM
  16. SoCal Railroader's Avatar
    No, I think he's referring to his 1st gen phone listed in his description
    Lol, Oh okay
    2010-07-14 07:30 PM
  17. wookiee2cu's Avatar
    I have thought about taking my iphone back, but i haven't got to use it because im waiting for the unlock haha. When that happens i guess ill figure out if I have a good one or bad one haha
    Just take it in and exchange it, that's what I'm doing. Also, the reception/death grip is not the ONLY issue with the iPhone 4. I got mine on 6-23 and I don't have the reception issue but I do have the proximity issue and BT earbud issue (BT device is off, call comes in, answer with iPhone, power on BT device, transfer call to BT device and the other party says my voice is muffled and hard to hear and understand). When I spoke with the Apple Genius during my appointment he said they get 2-5 exchanges a day for the proximity issue and they are aware of it. He had not heard of the bluetooth issue. He did warn me that some people who have gotten a replacement unit discovered that the new unit also had the proximity issue so it is something I will have to monitor for the next few days when I get it which should be tomorrow.
    2010-07-14 07:41 PM
  18. Rokesomesmeefer's Avatar
    So back to the topic at hand...

    How about of show of hands of the people who are waiting for the sheeple to buy out the current iPhone4 stocks and provide Apple with enough money to both turn an obscene profit AND begin manufacturing the new iPhone4+ in August?

    The Consumer Response to iPhone 4 Problems? Buy More iPhones!-sjhr.jpg
    2010-07-14 09:24 PM
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    this store is from Toronto Eaton Center!!!!!
    2010-07-14 09:43 PM
  20. QuinnNebula's Avatar
    what? people can't wait for them to fix it
    2010-07-14 09:57 PM
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