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  1. Paul Daniel Ash's Avatar


    A somewhat enigmatic email from @comex is raising speculation that the next untethered jailbreak may be held back for iOS 4.3. An Italian blogger contacted the guy behind Spirit and JailbreakMe to ask for a short and sweet answer to the question of whether the untether will be available for 4.2.1 or 4.3, and received the response that it "depends when 4.3 is out."

    The Dev-Team released the "backup plan" tethered jailbreak after it was clear that @comex was not going to be able to hit his Christmas target for the userland jailbreak he has been working on. Dubbed "jailbreak monte" (after the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't card trick), the current version of redsn0w, as well as the untethered version in beta, conserves exploits by relying on iOS 4.2 beta 3, which is only available to developers. This has led to a proliferation of pirated betas, which @comex says "is making me nervous." But with the only alternative being a userland jailbreak that Apple would fix in 4.3, @comex has apparently concluded that it makes more strategic sense to hold back on that for now, and wait for the next firmware release. The email sent to Andrea Cervone of iPhoneItalia supposedly had come from the email address @comex has publicized on his Twitter feed, though obviously that's easy to fake in a screenshot.

    Right now we're at a bit of an impasse, because there are a lot of people who want/need jailbreaks who don't have the $99 to pay for an iOS Developer license, or are ineligible for one because of their age and country of origin. As long as "monte" is the only jailbreak method out there, it's going to tempt those people to pirate 4.2b3, which as @chpwn notes "hurts the image of jailbreaking" by giving detractors an excuse to paint it as "illegal and illegitimate." Let's hope that the standoff ends quickly.

    Source: Redmond Pie; image via iPhoneItalia
    2011-01-03 09:37 PM
  2. Simon's Avatar
    At this point it seems like a good idea to me.
    2011-01-03 09:41 PM
  3. Bersahin201's Avatar
    Well i guess we have to wait
    2011-01-03 09:41 PM
  4. dq13's Avatar
    I am no developer and have never been, but my iphone 4 says it has SHSH saved for 4.2b3?? or this "pirate" thing applies to the actual firmware that only devs have? I kinda got lost for a second
    2011-01-03 09:45 PM
  5. Mes's Avatar
    Well i guess we have to wait
    We have no choice but to wait. I can't do it
    2011-01-03 09:47 PM
  6. Simon's Avatar
    I am no developer and have never been, but my iphone 4 says it has SHSH saved for 4.2b3?? or this "pirate" thing applies to the actual firmware that only devs have? I kinda got lost for a second
    It applies to the firmware.
    2011-01-03 09:49 PM
  7. Snozberries's Avatar
    thx Comex. i'd like to see the untethered for 4.3!! (2 cents) let's wait to see what CES brings us!
    2011-01-03 09:54 PM
  8. iFrosty's Avatar
    At this point it seems like a good idea to me.
    +1
    2011-01-03 09:55 PM
  9. ninthchamber99's Avatar
    I am no developer and have never been, but my iphone 4 says it has SHSH saved for 4.2b3?? or this "pirate" thing applies to the actual firmware that only devs have? I kinda got lost for a second
    I have asked this before but never got a response from anyone. My iPad has its SHSH saved for 4.2B3 but my iPhone 3GS is only saved up to 4.1. I too am not a developer so when I saw my iPad was saved but my phone was not I got worried that I would not be able to update my phone. Why is my iPad saved up to 4.2B3 and my phone is not? Is it because my phone is a 3GS and/or I am not a developer?
    "Once is an accident, Twice is a trend, Three times is evidence."
    2011-01-03 10:01 PM
  10. delusion950's Avatar
    yea good idea to wait. I dont mind.
    2011-01-03 10:02 PM
  11. Simon's Avatar
    I have asked this before but never got a response from anyone. My iPad has its SHSH saved for 4.2B3 but my iPhone 3GS is only saved up to 4.1. I too am not a developer so when I saw my iPad was saved but my phone was not I got worried that I would not be able to update my phone. Why is my iPad saved up to 4.2B3 and my phone is not? Is it because my phone is a 3GS and/or I am not a developer?
    Have you tried saving your SHSH with tiny umbrella or just through cydia?
    2011-01-03 10:03 PM
  12. Zokunei's Avatar
    I believe he means "Depends on if 4.3 is out before or very soon after the untether is finished and it is unpatched".
    2011-01-03 10:07 PM
  13. Lombardo Joe's Avatar
    Looks like I might have to man up and go tethered...
    2011-01-03 10:08 PM
  14. ninthchamber99's Avatar
    Have you tried saving your SHSH with tiny umbrella or just through cydia?
    Just Cydia. My SHSH's are at least saved for both devices but I noticed in Cydia that my phone was saved up to 4.1 and the pad was saved up to 4.2B3
    "Once is an accident, Twice is a trend, Three times is evidence."
    2011-01-03 10:10 PM
  15. MikeThomson's Avatar
    The 4.2.1 beta jailbreak is only for iPhone 4 iPod 4g and the iPad
    2011-01-03 10:12 PM
  16. Simon's Avatar
    Cydia doesnt always display them all. Use tiny umbrella to find out for sure
    2011-01-03 10:14 PM
  17. ninthchamber99's Avatar
    The 4.2.1 beta jailbreak is only for iPhone 4 iPod 4g and the iPad
    This is what I was thinking. Is this a true statement, if so , that would explain why my phone, a 3GS, is not displaying the 4.2B3 and my iPad does.
    "Once is an accident, Twice is a trend, Three times is evidence."
    2011-01-03 10:16 PM
  18. Nielsenius's Avatar
    The jailbreak devs really need to stop playing this game. It's understandable that you wouldn't want to release a JB right before a new firmware release, but we don't even know when 4.3 is coming. Apple has been known to play this by delaying releases or immediately releasing updates to a major release. The cat and mouse game needs to end.
    2011-01-03 10:16 PM
  19. Cowboy's Avatar
    Yup I am a fan of the waiting idea.
    2011-01-03 10:19 PM
  20. Simon's Avatar
    This is what I was thinking. Is this a true statement, if so , that would explain why my phone, a 3GS, is not displaying the 4.2B3 and my iPad does.
    Use tiny umbrella: The Firmware Umbrella - TinyUmbrella

    See what SHSH it saves for your iPhone
    2011-01-03 10:19 PM
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