1. gotanmp3's Avatar
    AT&T lost exclusivity of the iPhone 4 and it's only a matter of time before all the national carriers have it (I'd venture a year, at most). So in the long term, an unlock is almost irrelevant to US users at this point.

    As far as jailbreaking goes, Steve Jobs has flat out said if you want porno to get an Android phone and I seriously doubt his opinion towards jailbreaking would be any different. Still, it's never a good idea to tell some of your most vocal supporters to switch to the competition. They might actually like the competing product better, and make an incredibly popular YouTube video about it.

    I also doubt Android is quite as doomed by the Verizon iPhone as some people are predicting - the iPhone still lacks flash, doesn't offer a model with a hardware keyboard, has no speech to text, no widgets/live wallpapers, no turn by turn navigation, no removable memory, no removable battery and only comes in one screen size. It's not exactly surprising that someone would still choose an Android phone over the iPhone 4.
    2011-01-15 06:26 AM
  2. thevmax's Avatar
    +1

    If I could theme a stock iPhone (including 5 column SB and 5 icon dock), that would remove 75% of my need for jailbreak. But until I can theme an iPhone, I'll be a jailbreaker, or a non apple user. Maybe it's shallow, but I HATE the look of a stock iPhone.

    MyWi, SBSettings and iFile would be the only other things I would miss.

    I skipped the iP4, and held onto my 3GS, but if the iphone5's forward are not jailbreakable, I will pick up a iP4 and that will be my last (unless they start allowing themes! ...I would LOVE to see a Theme's section on the appstore!!!)
    Got some news for you.
    1. Iphone 4 is a lot faster, multitasks better, and manages memory better than the 3GS.
    2. The one I purchased, and a few other Iphone 4s, have been units with IOS 4.0 or 4.02 on them, so they are easily jailbreakable right out of the box.
    2011-01-15 09:22 AM
  3. buddyd11's Avatar
    OK plain and simple if I purchase a PC I can run any OS on it that I choose, Doesnt matter if it is a IBM, Dell, HP whatever... Isnt a Smart Phone the same as a small mobile computer??? What is next Dell saying if I run anything other than Windows on my PC they are going to sue me? Just silly Greed from apple this will be the last iPhone I purchase. Steve Jobs did a god job of bringing Apple out of the muck just to start the decline all over again. Do they realize they dont have the only phone with the same capabilities of the iPhone, and people have a friggen choice? Idiots!!!!!
    2011-01-15 02:43 PM
  4. GuyGascard's Avatar
    Is this mean that since apple is releasing beta constantly that a jailbreak could never be released.
    People that broth a lot of software from cydia like are not getting any usage of that software for the last 3 or 4 months patience may be a virtue but in this case it is outrageous. And this to avoid some more work from the developers..... Come on!!!!!!!!!!
    2011-01-15 04:02 PM
  5. ninthchamber99's Avatar
    Unless the release of untethered 4.2.1 JB tool might affect future JBs, then they should at least release what they have. Because it now sounds like we will be waiting until late Feb/early March before anything is released.

    Decisions, Decisions!!
    "Once is an accident, Twice is a trend, Three times is evidence."
    2011-01-16 12:13 AM
  6. T4R06's Avatar
    There is no last.. After apple released the 4.2.5 or 4.3 it will take time for the dev team.. Then apple will release again another "fix" firmware.

    Apple seems winning on strategy vs dev team
    2011-01-16 12:43 AM
  7. ShredNasty's Avatar
    The news from MuscleNerd comes just as an NBC News affiliate reports that Apple is ramping up efforts to recruit the Federal Government to assist in cracking down on iOS jailbreaking.
    EXACTLY why I left iPhone, and EXACTLY why I won't ever be back. Apple's unquenchable thirst to control what I can and can't do on MY device.

    Google on the other hand, could care less if I want SMS Popup or the ability to download Youtube videos. Actually, they encourage it, provide an open market to provide it, and it happens to be free.

    There is no last.. After apple released the 4.2.5 or 4.3 it will take time for the dev team.. Then apple will release again another "fix" firmware.

    Apple seems winning on strategy vs dev team
    Yeah. Like break email/iPod/alarm clock just to have a reason to release another OS after a jailbreak is released.
    Last edited by ShredNasty; 2011-01-16 at 01:27 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    iPhone 4 to Android directly back to iPhone 4. I learned my lesson and will never leave iOS again.
    2011-01-16 01:27 AM
  8. mortopher's Avatar
    Yeah. Like break email/iPod/alarm clock just to have a reason to release another OS after a jailbreak is released.
    Since when do they need a reason to release an iOS update? They can be perfectly honest and say they are patching a security hole. No need to dream up an excuse.
    2011-01-16 01:47 AM
  9. ShredNasty's Avatar
    Since when do they need a reason to release an iOS update? They can be perfectly honest and say they are patching a security hole. No need to dream up an excuse.
    Oh. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, seeing how as the iPod issues and the multiple alarm clock fails were pretty ridiculous for a company who claims their software to be the main selling point, on a 4 year old platform.

    Besides, an honest communist is still a communist.
    iPhone 4 to Android directly back to iPhone 4. I learned my lesson and will never leave iOS again.
    2011-01-16 10:47 AM
  10. stevebarnes's Avatar
    Anyone know if this can be unlocked so I can use my UK sim card when i am abroad?
    2011-01-16 04:35 PM
  11. ShredNasty's Avatar
    Anyone know if this can be unlocked so I can use my UK sim card when i am abroad?
    Check out X D A - developers dot com. When it happens, it'll be there.

    My guess is within 30 days of it's release there will be an unlock, a stable one-click-root, and several ROMs.

    I know I can't wait til it comes out. I'm probably gonna get one and sell my Captivate.
    Last edited by ShredNasty; 2011-01-16 at 05:05 PM. Reason: When you type X D, it auto-emoticons to XD.....
    iPhone 4 to Android directly back to iPhone 4. I learned my lesson and will never leave iOS again.
    2011-01-16 05:04 PM
  12. brab's Avatar
    If apple is successful on preventing jailbreaking I will make the painful switch to android. Their loss
    Trust me, it's a painless procedure...I have never been happier...
    I am once again enjoying the phone, and am done with Apple most likely forever...
    2011-01-16 07:43 PM
  13. ShredNasty's Avatar
    Trust me, it's a painless procedure...I have never been happier...
    I am once again enjoying the phone, and am done with Apple most likely forever...
    +10! I'm in the same boat. The only thing that limits you from modding on Android is, how fast can you learn how to mod on Android. No worries of a commie in Cali blocking me from customization.

    Although, I do love my Mac, as far as portable Apple products go, they've gone too far with control, and there are vastly better products on the market.
    iPhone 4 to Android directly back to iPhone 4. I learned my lesson and will never leave iOS again.
    2011-01-17 01:40 AM
  14. Mes's Avatar
    ^I wouldn't go so far as to say "vastly superior products" but we get the point! There are exciting products being introduced every day, most by co's other than Apple. The iPhone glamor days are almost over and many competitors have stepped up.
    2011-01-17 04:12 AM
  15. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
    Ive been a loyal iphone user since the first iphone, but I saw that HTC VS iPhone video on YouTube and it kind of woke me up. When it comes to features, Android 2.2 is still WAY ahead of even my iPhone 4. Seriously, I can use 90% of the phones functions by voice, I have widgets, my screen is WAY bigger, its faster, more stable, I watch DIVX w/o converting, can upgrade the memory whenever I want, buy a new battery when this one goes DOA, and since I'm on TMobile, I get 4G speeds. I tether a consistant 5MBs and I live in Downtown ATL. Yeeeeeaaaa... Im straight with my HTC
    Yeah, but it's all to nothing because Android screen interaction and touch-sensitive buttoning ruins the whole enchilada.

    And even if they didn't, a few Android app installs in and you have to reformat because things get messed up so quickly.

    There's a reason iDevices continue to kick Android *****.
    Android really need to up their game if they're ever to mount a serious challenge to Crapple.
    2011-01-17 12:46 PM
  16. MidtownHD's Avatar
    I mean, untethered jailbreak is kinda out for 4.2.1
    2011-01-18 07:11 AM
  17. unklbyl's Avatar
    It's human nature to circumvent, as soon as someone puts up a wall, someone else finds a way around it. If apple pulls the home button (which would kinda piss me off from a UI perspective), then our kickass devs will come up with a way around it (remember jailbreakme.com? No home button needed there...)
    Tiny umbrella anyone? What was that home button for again?
    I click a button called "enter recovery mode" or "kick out of recovery mode"
    All i need is an apple cable and windows vista. The unlocks of old required brains, guts, and sweat, and DID void any guarantee or warantee you might have had. Too bad we can't go back...
    JB will be around a while, and so will i.
    2011-01-18 09:01 AM
  18. mortopher's Avatar
    Tiny umbrella anyone? What was that home button for again?
    I click a button called "enter recovery mode" or "kick out of recovery mode"
    All i need is an apple cable and windows vista. The unlocks of old required brains, guts, and sweat, and DID void any guarantee or warantee you might have had. Too bad we can't go back...
    JB will be around a while, and so will i.
    Recovery mode and dfu mode are two entirely different things.
    2011-01-18 08:52 PM
  19. unklbyl's Avatar
    Recovery mode and dfu mode are two entirely different things.
    Of course they are, and i do know that, but i think my point was made...
    2011-01-19 07:16 AM
  20. cncrim's Avatar
    Apple is not the only smartphone on the planet, we should switch to Android and see Apple will stump. I will be the first one.
    2011-01-19 09:30 PM
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