1. fventura03's Avatar
    does this mean, no one else can use scroll bars? or they just can't use the same shape?
    2012-07-19 05:09 AM
  2. Cer0's Avatar
    does this mean, no one else can use scroll bars? or they just can't use the same shape?
    "covers the implementation of transparent and disappearing vertical scroll bars "

    They can't use the ones that disappear when done scrolling.
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    2012-07-19 05:28 AM
  3. dsg's Avatar
    it's a totally pathetic patent, end of!!!!!!
    2012-07-19 05:37 AM
  4. GmAz's Avatar
    What about all that time before this POS passed through that they existed? Die Apple DIE!
    2012-07-19 07:20 AM
  5. mori's Avatar
    Patent the telephone. Anything that makes a phone call.

    Ridiculous bs.

    -Luke
    i will patent the form a lung intake oxygen and exhales Co2, smile pay or die..lol
    2012-07-19 07:48 AM
  6. myhargalan's Avatar
    Im gonna take **** and patent it so no one in the world can **** the way i do
    2012-07-19 10:19 AM
  7. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
    Quick! ... has anyone patented the wheel yet ?

    How TF are Apple getting these patents through ?

    If there is 'prior art' (ie - someone has previously invented it - but not patented it), surely the USPO has no legal grounds for granting the patent.

    Or is this patent simply for the code used for Apple scrollbars ... meaning that it only affects anyone wishing to use the same/very similar code ?
    2012-07-19 11:48 AM
  8. dennder's Avatar
    What about all that time before this POS passed through that they existed? Die Apple DIE!
    Oh come on. Patent office should die, not apple. The way i see it, apple may try to patent oxygen-hydrogen atmosphere, but those people at the patent office should be reasonable enough not to allow such bs.
    Still, patent for disappearing scrollbars... patent system is broken.
    PRAETORIANNI NONNUMQUAM IN PROELIO NUMQUAM IN BELLO SUPERANTUR
    2012-07-19 11:49 AM
  9. iPhoneThereforeIAm's Avatar
    Oh come on. Patent office should die, not apple. The way i see it, apple may try to patent oxygen-hydrogen atmosphere,


    ... scary atmosphere !
    2012-07-19 11:53 AM
  10. thomaspeter's Avatar
    If they just continue to award patents like this, and continued to fuel the already going battles, soon companies will start thinking outside the rules and regulations of the patents!

    As for this patent, I think it must be a reservation of this specific kind of scroll-bar and not general scrolling property or all scroll-bars, these are long time established companies using scroll bars, so the patent attorney must either be mistaken or it would be a patent for this specific and exact type of scroll-bars as I mentioned earlier!
    2012-07-19 12:02 PM
  11. raptorjr's Avatar
    Why call it scrollbars? You cant use them to scroll. Page-view-position bars maybe.
    2012-07-19 03:08 PM
  12. rocky5's Avatar
    So what if we don't make the scroll bar transparent & not fade out, but instead make it slide out of view until its needed again?
    Apple are Control freaks we need to stop them before they take over the world!!
    2012-07-19 05:19 PM
  13. thazsar's Avatar
    Why call it scrollbars? You cant use them to scroll. Page-view-position bars maybe.
    +1
    2012-07-19 06:06 PM
  14. CoronaDelux's Avatar
    These patents are getting pretty ridiculous. How do they even get passed and granted in the first place?
    2012-07-19 07:08 PM
  15. znbl's Avatar
    "covers the implementation of transparent and disappearing vertical scroll bars "

    They can't use the ones that disappear when done scrolling.
    I know I've seen disappearing scroll bars long before the iPhone came along (namely in certain web browsers, such as any Firefox, Mozilla, and Netscape (as far back as 2.02 / ~1994, as well as Opera, albeit usually not transparent (although some skins might provide a transparent effect.) There are other applications that have scroll bars that auto vanish when they aren't needed too. I sincerely hope the patent only applies to mobile devices, but regardless, this is precisely the sort of patent that never should be granted. No basic common element of a GUI should be patentable.
    2012-07-19 07:18 PM
  16. unmystic's Avatar
    I am going to pattent the letter "i" so when you type iPhone you gotta pay me..!! If they pattent a scroll bar, maybe i can pattent a letter :-)
    2012-07-19 11:06 PM
  17. alanjf's Avatar
    Why call it scrollbars? You cant use them to scroll. Page-view-position bars maybe.
    This is an excellent point, that a lot of us seemed to have missed. They aren't actually scroll bars. The user doesn't interact with them directly at all, they just reflect the current position as the user scrolls using their fingers on the page or list.
    2012-07-19 11:27 PM
  18. tongxinshe's Avatar
    I AM REALLY AMAZED HOW WE AMERICANS ARE EDUCATED BY THE SCIETY TO SPEAK (WRITE COMMENTS) BEFORE EVEN LISTENING (READING). Just look at all of the comments up there, 90% of them were written by people didn't ever finishing reading the short article!!!!!!
    2012-07-19 11:34 PM
  19. znbl's Avatar
    This is an excellent point, that a lot of us seemed to have missed. They aren't actually scroll bars. The user doesn't interact with them directly at all, they just reflect the current position as the user scrolls using their fingers on the page or list.
    Agreed, though there are many mouse-based interfaces that can also be scrolled using the keyboard, making the scroll-bar appear to move on it's own, but it is still an interface element the user can directly interact with, where as those in iOS are for feedback only, so I would agree that calling the latter a scroll bar is a misnomer and technically incorrect.
    2012-07-19 11:36 PM
  20. brodimus's Avatar
    I AM REALLY AMAZED HOW WE AMERICANS ARE EDUCATED BY THE SCIETY TO SPEAK (WRITE COMMENTS) BEFORE EVEN LISTENING (READING).
    Irony.
    2012-07-20 01:03 AM
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