1. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
    Let's stay on topic, thanks.
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    2013-12-23 01:14 AM
  2. egypt123's Avatar
    The easy answers-

    1) The notion that code is written into a jailbreak to allow the Chinese Government to spy is preposterous to begin with.

    2) Nevertheless, the Chinese do NOT care about your texts to your bf/gf, calls to mom and dad, or porn searches on Safari. You are nobody.

    2) If your phone DOES have confidential info on it- medical records, credit card numbers, social security numbers of clients, business docs or trade secrets, you should NOT be jailbreaking in the first place.

    Easy answers for lots of stupid questions about this overblown nonsense.
    Seriously? I doubt people are worried about the Chinese government, per say. They're worrying about who these Tiag people are and anyone else they might be involved with. You don't think people use apps like eBay, PayPal, banking apps, credit cards apps etc on their phone or ipad? Any of these could clean a person out if the info got into the wrong hands. I mean, think. :-/
    Last edited by egypt123; 2013-12-23 at 01:20 AM.
    2013-12-23 01:18 AM
  3. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
    This is not that situation. This is a separate bundled package management app for Chinese users, which allows those users to access a third party app store. There is zero evidence of any grand system-wide implementation of anything malicious, and to spread those rumors without proof is pointless.

    If you are not in China, nothing but Cydia is installed on your device.
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    2013-12-23 01:31 AM
  4. Feanor64's Avatar
    Lol man shady stuff going on man like a soap opera or something. Lol geohot, recorded conversations, secret Chinese business deals. I mean obviously this is all coming out after the fact it has been released. To me and its just pure speculation but this is the answer to why they didn't wait for 7.1 man. It makes no sense to not wait for 7.1 they were afraid apple would patch the exploits and the Chinese deal would fall through. Pure speculation tho. 😊 I mean you don't tell jay freeman? That's shady bro...
    2013-12-23 01:44 AM
  5. znbl's Avatar
    This is not that situation. This is a separate bundled package management app for Chinese users, which allows those users to access a third party app store. There is zero evidence of any grand system-wide implementation of anything malicious, and to spread those rumors without proof is pointless.

    If you are not in China, nothing but Cydia is installed on your device.
    I understand what you are saying. But what I've been wondering is, if they just wanted to have a specific directory for Chinese users, then why couldn't they have just setup their own Cydia repo, just like many others have done before. I this is a valid question and possibly a good reason why some people are a tad skeptical and/or nervous about this mysterious new app store. I'm not against alternative app stores, but for one to come out of the blue AND to be from an unknown organization, and being introduced in what seems like atypical fashion, I'm not surprised that people are wanting to be cautious.
    2013-12-23 01:46 AM
  6. thecrunked's Avatar
    ^no danger, even if it is installed, its a chinese app that does basically the same thing cydia does as well as having the ability to get cracked apps. chinese people who don't understand english need to be able to install iphone tweaks too, they just also have pirated app downloading built in
    2013-12-23 01:51 AM
  7. Kyle Matthews's Avatar
    I understand what you are saying. But what I've been wondering is, if they just wanted to have a specific directory for Chinese users, then why couldn't they have just setup their own Cydia repo, just like many others have done before. I this is a valid question and possibly a good reason why some people are a tad skeptical and/or nervous about this mysterious new app store. I'm not against alternative app stores, but for one to come out of the blue AND to be from an unknown organization, and being introduced in what seems like atypical fashion, I'm not surprised that people are wanting to be cautious.
    I agree a better method would been have simply to include TaiG and Cydia both as checkboxes, default them to whichever value the evad3rs preferred, and release. So it was obvious it was being installed.
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    2013-12-23 01:52 AM
  8. thecrunked's Avatar
    It is perfectly safe. the app in question is a chinese equivalent of cydia (with built in functionality to download and install cracked apps). it will only be installed to your device if your computer (and maybe iphone too) is set to chinese language. it can also be uninstalled.
    2013-12-23 01:55 AM
  9. riassan's Avatar
    Always a few in the crowd that like to throw stones. Like we had anything to do with the jailbreak. Just reporting the news.
    Exaxtly poetic folly, cash7c3, cpjr and more members who have been here from the jump have seen this blkcadi. Before cydia there was installer, Icy and ZiPhone variants and took a bit more to root our devices then it does now on the user end of the spectrum and now everyone's so impatient. Going through code isn't the easiest on any level, it's like a David vs Goliath battle scenario. As the device has grown over the years so has it's user community of rooted and non rooted devices. Yes they receive donations, but do NOT expect them. A true user realizes these factors and know it takes patients and time. The site as a whole has always been legit and reported good intel that other sites usually link back to bc of this places stability. As a jail breaker and rooted device user, whether Apple or android I'm using, there is always that risk you take doing so. This incident is the same as a good friend of mine TrevE found a few years ago with manufacturers including carrierIQ in there devices that monitored users device usage as a whole. Basically don't shoot the messenger.
    2013-12-23 01:57 AM
  10. bigboyz's Avatar
    Im happy the JB is finally here. Im sad I cannot do anything with it but have Cydia sitting on my springboard. Nothing is compatible. Can't wait for Saurik and team to update as needed.
    2013-12-23 01:58 AM
  11. dsg's Avatar
    this is messed up and we all need honest answers about security

    Edit: China have a deal with Apple, is the jailbreak involved?
    Last edited by dsg; 2013-12-23 at 02:18 AM.
    privacy isn't about having something to hide, another view here

    look here all grammar police, indulge me.
    2013-12-23 02:12 AM
  12. Spyruf's Avatar
    I can't believe these devs are being ignorant. Why would u release this and not involve saurik? What's the point of jailbreaking the phone if cydia and it's tweaks etc... Do not work? Just stupid
    they had differences on how to give the jailbrea so saurik started working with another group
    also there were rumors of a jailbreaking that was going be sold so they wanted to get theirs out first

    right now this jb is pretty much useless
    2013-12-23 02:18 AM
  13. Answer1o1's Avatar
    It's funny to me that the real question that is ont the table was dodged in this article. If we have installed this Jailbreak in English, are we in imminent peril or is our data compromised, can be compromised in any way.

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
    Yeah seriously we need an official answer for this
    2013-12-23 02:33 AM
  14. Happy Noodle Boy's Avatar
    Yeah seriously we need an official answer for this
    Literally no one knows. Some say it's safe. Some says it's making weird things. The point is the transparency and clearness of previous releases is GONE. Yes, there's a pretty good chance this is "safe". But you're mad if you're taking a chance on it.

    Not to mention the foundation of a lot of what the consumer/general JB community uses is broken you lose nothing by waiting a week or so. Just don't update to 7.1

    I'm a helpful jerk, fear me.
    2013-12-23 02:38 AM
  15. stulaw11's Avatar
    pod2g has already said, as expected, this paranoia was bs:

    Ben Kematick ‏@BennyK491 1h
    @pod2g what about our data being uploaded to a 360 server? Or the fact that cydia is an unofficial build and substrate doesn't work?
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    6:44 PM - 22 Dec 13 Details

    pod2g ‏@pod2g 1h
    @bennyk491 cydia is an unofficial build, that's true, and old build that we fixed, but the rest is wrong facts.
    2013-12-23 03:00 AM
  16. anig's Avatar
    I totally get the concern for data compromise, were all just a little gun shy due to the events with china based hackers hacking several corporate domains but given the circumstances here and the design for the third party app, only working when activated, our personal, however personal data is just as secured as it was yesterday. be careful anyway everyday with your personal info.
    2013-12-23 03:01 AM
  17. Paulsquaredson's Avatar
    I was holding on to 6.1.4 hoping winocm and ih8sn0w would release soon, but when I read this morning I immediately updated and jailbroke. This day just got more confusing and I restored to a clean 7.0.4. While jailbroken I plugged into iExplorer and didn't see root access and I got skeptical. I'm sure it's legit, but I think I'll hold out on the JB to see what Saurik says.
    2013-12-23 03:12 AM
  18. Answer1o1's Avatar
    Or we could look at it like this. This week is probably the craziest during the year as far people buying stuff. Everyone will be buying gifts and all sorts of chit in stores, but mainly ONLINE. Which means CC's/debtcards/PayPal will be used for these purchases. What a coincidence the jail break that's fishy at best drops out of NO WHERE during this chaotic time when everyone will be buying things like crazy. Even people that never buy stuff through apps or on mobile devices will upload their personal info on Amazon or eBay, other apps to make purchases for the holidays because a friend recommended it. Plus no waiting in line, fast shipping blah blah deals are deals right? So China pays these guys to drop it during this week, aka tapping into our device's without us knowing, so they could just have all these transactions uploaded to their servers which makes it easier for them to have a majority of personal info in just a few days. China doesn't like the US. That's no secret.

    I was watching Terminator 2 the other day so I'm probably just on that Skynet high lol
    2013-12-23 03:23 AM
  19. BhadKarma's Avatar
    Just amazing. Period. If any of you know your I device you know what to install to check if incoming connections are taking place or out going....

    Jailbreak = amazing THANKS DEVS!!
    2013-12-23 03:28 AM
  20. taliezin's Avatar
    Exaxtly poetic folly, cash7c3, cpjr and more members who have been here from the jump have seen this blkcadi. Before cydia there was installer, Icy and ZiPhone variants and took a bit more to root our devices then it does now on the user end of the spectrum and now everyone's so impatient. Going through code isn't the easiest on any level, it's like a David vs Goliath battle scenario. As the device has grown over the years so has it's user community of rooted and non rooted devices. Yes they receive donations, but do NOT expect them. A true user realizes these factors and know it takes patients and time. The site as a whole has always been legit and reported good intel that other sites usually link back to bc of this places stability. As a jail breaker and rooted device user, whether Apple or android I'm using, there is always that risk you take doing so. This incident is the same as a good friend of mine TrevE found a few years ago with manufacturers including carrierIQ in there devices that monitored users device usage as a whole. Basically don't shoot the messenger.
    I agree with this fully. And btw, about all the complaints of tweaks not working yet. It has been the same with every JB release, developers start updating to new iOS JB after it has been released. And this is, if I remember correctly, only the second time a JB was released without an updated Cydia. When Cydia is updated it will be possible to install trough the Cydia version that is released with this latest JB release. It has always been the same with JB releases, it will take days and some weeks for all the developers to update there tweaks and apps for the new iOS.

    And furthermore, there always have been healthy rivalry between JB teams. Only thing this time is that now Apple is growing market in China, there are JB orientated platforms that are willing to pay good money to get there appstore included in a JB release. The only motivation I think is, to get a head start in the JB app market that will be growing in China the coming years. This resulted in multiple JB teams that were coding a iOS 7 JB to get these offers, which may have included a deal to be not only to be included in the iOS 7 JB release but to be included in the FIRST iOS 7 JB release. This could be the legitimate reason of a early release without notice to the JB community.

    So, without info about what this Chinese Cydia alternative might have installed with this JB release, which will be clear in days to come, I imagine, we are only dealing here with JB coding teams getting a good offer for their hard work. This is all fair trade.

    This is only day ONE of iOS 7 JB release. The days to come, more JB tweaks will get updated to iOS 7, like with any JB release. And IF the Chinese Cydia alternative has slipped in some malicious code in this JB release, I am very confidant it will be found out and removed from future updates of evasi0n7. So for the haters out there, nothing really big has changed from other JB releases in the past. There is always a first release that will be updated within the first week, and a lot of tweaks won't work yet, like always.

    I think it is great the JB teams get to make some money making out of it. And if they stay on top of it to keep it safe for the end-users, who are we to stop them making some hard-earned money out of it. Don't forget, the JB community have always worked very hard and tirelessly to release JB solutions FOR FREE. And they still do. Give thanks to those who earn it.
    Last edited by taliezin; 2013-12-23 at 03:39 AM.
    2013-12-23 03:29 AM
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