1. twitchee3's Avatar
    @twitchee TLDR.
    I actually had to look up what TLDR meant. Apparently it means "too long, didn't read," which is a pretty good example of why this kind of thing is so dangerous.

    If we use the services provided by large corporations with tons of profit at stake while being oblivious to the detrimental terms we're using those services under, we're basically handing over our ability to make some pretty important decisions (such as what information is relevant) to these corporations, which, by law, must put their ability to increase profits above all else, including our well being.
    2013-02-27 01:42 AM
  2. XenoSaber's Avatar
    Guys, nobody is opening emails or attachments and reading them through. It's all software and it's all encrypted.

    Relax.
    If you believe this you, my friend, are a fool!!!
    "僕はアニメが好きです!!!"
    "一遍死んで見る" ---閻魔あい, 地獄少女

    "Humans are greedy, therefore they are human, you do well to remember that."
    "Go ahead and shoot me if you want, but... I think you'll wish you'd saved your ammunition later."

    ---Armblast, GOTT Auditor and ES Member
    2013-02-27 02:39 AM
  3. Brinky's Avatar
    So I just sent myself an email with the a subject and body that both contained the phrase barely legal teens and it went though. Not really seeing this 'issue'
    2013-02-27 03:14 AM
  4. vinaygoel2000's Avatar
    If you believe this you, my friend, are a fool!!!
    Ok I confess I'm a fool just because you said so.

    Who are you anyway?
    2013-02-27 04:20 AM
  5. krayzeeman's Avatar
    Now I understand why I never get any offers for a cheap Samsung phone in my iCloud mailbox
    2013-02-27 11:12 AM
  6. ChicagoV's Avatar
    "...our constitutional right to privacy..."
    No such thing
    Reminding you all that YOU'RE YOUR
    2013-02-27 01:35 PM
  7. Shigoroku's Avatar
    Apple hate's pornography.
    They have show this to us in many cases, ...
    Need someone to proofread?

    Anyway, this article is flawed. This is a misguided spam filtering technique. It is not a porn-filtering technique.

    Even though I have never used my iCloud email for anything, I get loads of spam.

    Apple is acting like the Middle East's Modesty Police. It's a slippery slope!
    The author is confused. This isn't meant to filter porn. It's meant to filter spam.

    Using hard keywords is not the best way to do it, Apple.

    For the record, I left Hotmail years ago over something similar. Every time I signed up for a forum registration or something else, I would not receive the activation email. It wouldn't appear in Junk either, I just wouldn't get the message at all. This went on for years, and I continually blamed the sending servers. Then I discovered that only some Hotmail accounts experience this, and others do not. Dumped Hotmail for Gmail and never looked back.

    I haven't had this problem with Gmail at all and it's clear that Google is MUCH better at differentiating spam from legitimate mail. Suspected spam appears in the Spam folder/label. Only 100% certain spam is rejected in such a way that it doesn't reach me.

    As a bonus, Gmail's interface is far superior to any other email system or mail client software. Conversations, labels, and filters ROCK! I will not give up Gmail unless something else works this way.
    Last edited by Shigoroku; 2013-02-27 at 07:36 PM.
    2013-02-27 07:23 PM
  8. twitchee3's Avatar
    No such thing
    Actually, in the Supreme Court's majority opinion on Roe v. Wade, they basically determined that the Constitution of the United States affords individuals the privacy to do what ever they wish with their body while in their own home (interesting how this has never been applied to prohibition, but that's another issue). Granted, this idea was derived from the Supreme Court's analysis of the bill of rights, but that is precisely what they are supposed to do, interpret the laws and assess how they should be applied in different circumstances.

    Anyway, this article is flawed. This is a misguided spam filtering technique. It is not a porn-filtering technique.
    Funny, because my spam filter always puts "spam" into the spam folder and lets me determine if it's actually worthwhile. If you read the article, you'll see that Apple's system deletes the emails and leaves no trace. The danger here is censoring information without anyone ever being aware of it. Marking messages as "spam" is a world away from deleting them entirely leaving no trace or warning. I've never heard of such things happening to Hotmail users (and have used hotmail for a while), but I'm sure it's possible they've done it. Regardless of what the intention behind the system originally was (I'm sure it was an honest attempt to filter spam), all it takes is for the wrong person with their own agenda to get access to Hotmail's (or iCloud's) "blacklist" to begin stifling serious public debate on important issues. And again, all of this could occur without any of us ever being aware it was happening.

    Again, I'm sure everyone understands the relatively harmless nature of the anecdote in this article, but many also understand that the mechanisms in place which allowed this to happen could just as easily be used for very insidious purposes (and again, without our knowledge!)

    It's the principle at stake here people, THIS IS A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE
    Last edited by twitchee3; 2013-02-27 at 08:39 PM.
    2013-02-27 08:32 PM
  9. Christophxr's Avatar
    Isn't that a breech of privacy? Apple opening emails and attachments and reading them?
    Apple, just like Yahoo!'s @yahoo, Google's @gmail, Microsoft's @live and Mailinator's @mailinator, owns your email address, and they can do whatever they want to with it. The best solution to this is to simply host your own mail.
    2013-02-27 08:57 PM
  10. Blue's Avatar
    Guys, nobody is opening emails or attachments and reading them through. It's all software and it's all encrypted.

    Relax.
    It doesn't matter if a real person or a software analyzes your private mails and deletes them.
    Reading your private correspondence is something that even a police officer can't do without a order from
    the court.

    In my country and probably every country this is a crime ! That's a fact.
    2013-02-28 12:01 AM
  11. fleurya's Avatar
    Honestly can't fault Apple for their censorship. If they can get sued by a bunch of absentee parents because they don't control their own children with their expensive devices, what would keep those same absentee parents from suing Apple over Apple allegedly allowing those same kids to see/communicate pron?
    2013-02-28 06:39 PM
  12. Hunter926's Avatar
    That's an invasion of privacy and should be stopped immediately. I for one am no longer using my @me.com email anymore
    2013-03-02 04:22 AM
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